Camp Scott

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City/Town: Locust Grove
Location Class: Ghost Town
Year Built: 1920's
Year Abandoned: 1977
Status: EndangeredNational Register of Historic Places
Photographer: Cody CooperBilly DixonDavid LindeJohnny Fletcher

SPECIAL THANKS

First we want to give a huge thanks to Kevin Weaver over at GirlScoutMurders.com for giving us a personal tour and his help researching. Head over to his site to read EVERYTHING about the Camp Scott story.

BACKGROUND

The Oklahoma Girl Scout Murders is still to this day an unsolved crime in rural Mayes County, Oklahoma. On a rainy, late-spring night in 1977, three girls—ages 8, 9, and 10, were murdered and left in the woods near their tent at Camp Scott Girl Scout summer camp. Although Gene Leroy Hart, a local jail escapee with a history of violence stood trial for the crime, he was acquitted. Thirty years later authorities conducted new DNA testing, but the results of these proved inconclusive, as the samples were too old.Camp Scott Map

HISTORY

In 1977, Camp Scott was in its 49th year as a keystone of the Tulsa-based Magic Empire Girl Scout Council. Situated along the confluence of Snake Creek and Spring Creek near State Highway 82, the 410-acre compound is located between Locust Grove and Tahlequah, Oklahoma.

Gene Leroy Hart had escaped from prison four years prior to the murders, and had been convicted of raping two pregnant women previously. Hart was born about a mile from Camp Scott.

Less than two months before the murders, during an on-site training session, a camp counselor found her belongings ransacked, her doughnuts stolen, and inside the empty doughnut box was a disturbing hand-written note. The author vowed to murder three campers. Because summer camps are rife with ghost stories, the note was treated as a prank and discarded.

June 12, 1977 was the first day of camp. Around 6pm a thunderstorm hit, and the girls huddled in their tents. Among them were Lori Lee Farmer (8 yo), and Doris Denise Milner (10 yo), both native Tulsans, along with Michele Guse (9 yo) of Broken Arrow. The trio were sharing tent #7 in the “Kiowa” camping area.Kiowa Map

THE KILLINGS

The following morning, a counselor made the frightening discovery of three girls, found dead in their sleeping bags at a fork in the trail. Soon, it was discovered that all three girls in tent #7 had been bludgeoned, and strangled to death.

AFTERMATH

June 13th, 1977 was the last day that Camp Scott was open. After nearly 50 years of hosting Girl Scouts, Camp Scott closed it’s doors and never reopened.

Gene Leroy Hart, a Cherokee, was arrested 10 months later at the home of a Cherokee medicine man and later tried in March, 1979. Although the local sheriff pronounced himself “one thousand percent” certain Hart committed the crimes, a local jury acquitted him.

Two of the families later sued the Magic Empire Council and its insurer in a $5 million alleged negligence action. The civil trial included discussion of the threatening note as well as the fact that tent #7 lay 86-yards from the counselors’ tent. The defense suggested that the future of summer camping in general hung in the balance. In 1985, by a 9–3 vote, jurors sided with the camp.

By this time, Hart was already dead. As a convicted rapist and jail escapee, he still had 305 of his 308 years left to serve in the Oklahoma State Penitentiary. In June 1979, during a jog inside the jail, he collapsed and died of an apparent heart attack.

Richard Guse, the father of one of the victims, went on to help the state legislature pass the Oklahoma Victim’s Bill of Rights. Another parent, Sheri Farmer, went on to found the Oklahoma chapter of support group Parents of Murdered Children.

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Kelly
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Kelly

My parents told me this story when I was younger. I always thought it was something they made up. Definitely want to check this place out!

amanda
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amanda

great job guys! very respectful and well researched. i did a research paper in college about camp scott and gene hart. i wish that he just would have admitted his guilt and let the families of the young victims have the peace they deserve.

Shawn Volkmann
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Shawn Volkmann

Looking at the facts of this case, when studied for a bit it is kind of strange that one person could have pulled this off. Its my guess that there had to be a minimum of two perpetrators to make this possible. The boot print didn't belong to Hart. Now I am not trying to stand up for someone like him, but I don't think just one person could have done this. Hart would have written something more complex on the wall of the cave, more of an insult. Now I do have another person in mind that was in… Read more »

Thumper
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Thumper

Good job on this! Kevin has done a great job on his site, but another site people should check out is http://girlscoutmurders.yuku.com, where Kevin has contributed some interesting things. It has been dedicated to these murders for a few years now and several members there have been dedicated researchers of the case for many years before the site was opened.

Abby
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Abby

Good job guys! I grew up hearing about these murders and this place but never even knew the name of the camp, only that it was close to Locust Grove. I really enjoyed the pics.

Danielle
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NEAT!!!! Very informative. Looks like an eerie place!

I really like the layout of this post. The maps are great. And the pictures being separated helps as well!

dondi
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dondi

I was a girlscout during this time…I remember it clearly! We were all afraid after this happened.

Tery
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Tery

Me too—after this we had dads go on our camping trips with us and they were armed with guns–they took turns watching over us through the night—-it seemed then that the time of childhood innocence was over.I was a girl scout from the Moore,OK area.

Dana
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Dana

My good friend Melody was there in tent 6 closest to tent 7 . She was scared her whole life over it

TulsaGal
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Great post. I remember all of this very well. I turned 19 3 days after the murders (yes I'm OLD) and followed all of it closely. Fascinating photos.

Lazzaro
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Lazzaro

I found your site via either TulsaGal of TTM and recently signed up for your rss feed. It’ll take a while to get through the archives here but I will eventually.

I got to thinking about the Camp Scott murders two or three years ago and did a web search to refresh my memory. It was a surprise to see you feature it a few days ago. Those three girls are hard to forget. And should be.

Photos of derelict buildings and areas have long interested me and this is the Oklahoma motherload. Nice work.

devri
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devri

Is there any way of contacting the owner of the camp? My friends and I would like to walk through it. ( very respectfully that is) Would that at all be possible? Thanks! =)

TDoug
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TDoug

Even in its derilict state, you can see Camp Scott was a pretty cool and fun place. Some of the pictures on this site have a creepy feel to them but, strangely, not these. It's almost as though the goodness and innocence that dwelled here still pervades over the horrendous act that closed it. It Hart did in fact commit these crimes, he not only destroyed the lives of three little girls (bad enough!) but he also ruined what could have been a great life experience for other little girls who would have gone to this camp. What a sorry… Read more »

Mike
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Mike

I would be very interested in contacting the owners. I live in Siloam Springs, Arkansas and I woud be very interested in paying the owners to let me and a group of my friends camp overnight in this place.

Abby
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Abby

Mike,
Like you I also live in Siloam Springs, grew up here. Just wandering if we happened to know eachother. Like you this place is very interesting to me.

Jessica
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Jessica

I've lived in the area all my life. This is a story that I grew up with. The camp is only about 6 miles from my home and I have visited many times. About 8 summers ago, the owners opened the swimming pool and placed a large sign out by the hwy promoting it (the sign is still there, but has been covered up). Of course, no one in the area was interested. Its sad to see what it has become. It hasn't changed in the last 15 yrs.

Kawee
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Kawee

My father worked the case against Hart. Speaking with him about the investigation and reading about it over the years, I'm 100% sure Gene Leroy Hart commited these murders. He was an evil spirit of a person. I was never allow to go to girl scout camp growing up even though I was a Brownie and Junior because my father wa so traumitizsed. The camp my girls go to looks just like this one, but of course it's not delapitated. This doesn't give me the creeps like the other properties. Its just very very sad. It's so strange how some… Read more »

Terri
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Terri

"Someone Cry For The Children" is a very intense, very well-written book that is available on Amazon. I highly recommendthe book. If you didn't think Hart was guilty before reading this book, you will have no doubt of his guilt after reading the book. I was a frequent camper at Camp Scott in the early to mid 1960's. Many great memories!

Gene
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Gene

"Tent Number 8" will certainly bring doubts to your intellect about Gene Leroy Hart being the sole perp, if even guilty at all. Even though "Someone Cry For The Children" was a good book there are some facts it just simply seems to ignore, like the simple logistics of how the crime went down. Lori Lee Farmer and Michele Guse were murdered in the tent and then carried 150 yards in their sleeping bags. Doris Denise Milner was led with her sleeping bag, or carried to the same location and then killed. I don't believe one person could have done… Read more »

@PreciousLambKni
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I certainly agree, from day one I've always thought this does not look like a crime that could be committed alone, how would you possibly wrangle three girls by yourself? You'd be liable to have one get free for sure….

Joe
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Joe

you're disgustingly massive used to play a physical sport and you basically have demonic powers. You could strangle two of them at the same time with one hand rather quickly before the 3rd would wake up. I would say it was all Gene.

R. barr
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R. barr

They were also bludgeoned so I supposed one person could do that at the same time too? The foot print did not match, nor did the fingerprint. He was guilty of raping not murder nor were they children that he raped. Criminals tend to have a certain type as their victims and rarely stray from that preference. Hard to believe he would change course and target children.

Sylvia Scott
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Sylvia Scott

Kawee, are you in CA or was your father in later years. My cousin mentioned to me last night she had met someone who's father worked the case. My cousin is about 75 years old and attended the camp. Her sister was a counselor also-anyway-we're looking for a copy of the book if ever find one please let me know.

Laygoon
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Laygoon

My sister was at the camp the week before the murders. My family followed the investigation and trial closely. I was very young at the time, but it all made a huge impression on me. I read the book when I was in college and had a hard time sleeping after that. I will never forget the faces of those girls in the newspaper. I never let my girls go to G.S. camp and I thoroughly inspected the safety of their church camps before allowing them to attend. Hart definitely committed the murders. Even though he is gone, the horrific… Read more »

Okie-D
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Okie-D

I just finished reading "Someone Cry For The Children" (Jan 2013)….had looked & looked everywhere – found it on ebay ("Tent #8" is there as well) but as a Tiak Council GS out of Seminole, that sadly, was my last year in GS's…but as an adult I was involved in Law Enforcement, so in reading the book…I was familiar with the terminology used & I must say the authors Michael & Dick Wilkerson, and all involved – I wouldn't have been able to sleep at night until I had the killer in custody, which Gene Leroy Hart had priors against… Read more »

Suz
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Suz

Respectfully, the murder of the three girls was horrific, to say the least, but I wish they would reopen the camp. Long before these murders took place, Camp Scott was a place filled with gaiety and laughter, not to mention, it was an educational experience. Friendships were made, such camaraderie around the camp fires, and when hiking, there was always the possibility of seeing one of the boys from the nearby camp. The photographs I see on the many websites about Camp Scott, I have those same photographs, but mine contain my camping buddies standing beside me, and that's how… Read more »

Kevin
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Well said Suz. If you are the Suz I think you are you know already that I am a fan of the way in which you express your feelings about this special place. Thanks for putting things in perspective for me again. – Kevin

drew
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drew

how do i get there?

William
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William

You and Bootsy totes hooked up.

Dani
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Dani

They need to reopen this. The past is the past. Just saying…

christian
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christian

I will check it out

Robbie
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Robbie

I am Bootsy. We stayed in Kiowa tent and had so much fun. We got kicked out after our second trip to Camp Scott. I told my friend to call the Camp Leaders husband a sonofabiscuiteater. She had never heard any kind of cuss words and didn't know she was doing anything wrong. We went on to stay friends for many years after that. That would have been 1968 or 69.

Robbie
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Robbie

P.S. Suz, if I had only known my go go dancing was that impressive I might have gone into it professionally…lol.

Brenna Haus
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Brenna Haus

I have so many wonderful memories of Camp Scott both with my Girl Scout troop and also from a summer camp experience. Such great memories that I am sad that it was closed after the horrible event that occurred. I understand the concern for safety and the traumatic event were the cause. With respect for the three girls, their families and friends it is understandable but still very sad that a plan could not be developed to reopen the camp.

J.Rowe
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J.Rowe

Suz, I'm 62 now, and I remember going to Camp Scott every fall and spring in the mid 60's with my Tulsa troop just for a weekend holiday. I loved it. At night we slept in the tents, 4-6 girls each and there was no adult with us. There were few lights at night. I can remember having been assigned a "bathroom buddy" who was supposed to accompany me (and I her) to the outhouse after dark. Well, I woke my "bathroom buddy" up to walk with me, and she promptly refused and fell back asleep. I made the walk… Read more »

L.J. Wheeler
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Don't see a way to contact the webmaster of the Girl Scout Murders site so thought I would post here that many of the links on that site need to be fixed as they point to the local machine where the site was/is being developed. Although there are some issues, the new site seems much cleaner than the previous site if memory serves me. If someone with this site has contact with the Girl Scout Murders site, you might mention their link problems. Having family in the Locust Grove, Mazie and Murphy, I remember driving through area and seeing more… Read more »

betrumka
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I run the site and I am in the process of re-linking many of those article and photos. I have been doing further research and I haven't been looking after the site as much as I should.

Guest
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Guest

If those photos are suppose to be of Camp Scott in Locust Grove, Okla the Rangers house is wrong! That is not the house I grew up in!
Teresa Woodward

Kevin Weaver
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Teresa, Could you contact me? I am Kevin Weaver. I maintain the site girlscoutmurders.com My friend Susan and I took the abandonedok crew out to the camp the day that they took these pictures. Would you consider contacting me? I would love to ask you some questions about your memories, growing up at the camp. I think I can clear up the problem with the labeling of the ranger house. What they have labeled as the Ranger House would better be called the Director's House. This is where Barbara and Richard Day were living during this final camp session in… Read more »

Donna
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Donna

Teresa…hope this gets to you…I was very close to your dad…Uncle Benny….and think of him often and never had the chance to tell you what a great person he was…it is sometimes later than it should be when we express such sentiment…He is greatly missed and greatly remembered. Donna

antique
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antique

Good Job Kevin Keep me updated .

Calvin Glenn
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Calvin Glenn

Never did believe Hart commited this crime,everything found linking him to the scene,photos and drivers license were left at prison when he escaped.

Barbie
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Barbie

I worked at the Girl Scout office when the murders happened. I was only in my 20's but I remember the tour of the camp I was given as a new employee. Even as a young adult I was struck with how dangerous the camp layout felt to me. I thought, "I would not let a child of mine come here." There was a haunting uneasiness about the place before the murders. I have always felt Hart did not commit the murders and it was someone who lived close around the area. My hope is that they are not there… Read more »

Nathanael
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Nathanael

Ma'am they live one property North at the Cavalier ranch. I dated Brandy Michelle Halsted and she admitted her uncle raped and molested her. He was the one that committed these acts I know it! Her uncle's name is Jim Cavalier,it either him or John. Not Jon Cavalier the grandfather but John Cavalier the uncle. Her mom Jacque Cavalier/Easton owns 10 acres and a historic ranch home her father Jon Cavalier died left her. Jacque said she doesn't want to come to her own property/home because of the "Memories." Jim Cavalier and Jacques's brothers need to be tested for DNA… Read more »

Renee Cypert
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Renee Cypert

It's a small world. I met the cavaliers including daisy years ago. I was married to her great nephew. Wow, never thought about that. They were such nice people. He had fought in WW2.

Tiger
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Tiger

I can vouch for Nathanael. Jim Cavalier IS responsible and he didn't act alone.

Calvin Glenn
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Calvin Glenn

No matter your percent that Hart was guilty,the articles found in the cave were left at the prison when he escaped,they did not hand them to him when he sneaked away.

Shawn Volkmann
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Shawn Volkmann

I have done some reasearch into this case with everything available to me. Has anyone ever checked out the recovered photo a little closer. I believe this picture to be of Betty Crawford, or a close relative thereof. The forground may be one of her daughters, I am going on memory here now as I have not been able to locate a photo of Betty, all of my originals were destroyed in a fire several years back. I spend a lot of my time looking at cases like this due to my mothers dissappearence over 20 years ago. If anyone… Read more »

Hannah
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While what happened to the girl's is horrible and tragic, I do agree that the camp should be reopened. The facilities and area is beautiful, and it's a shame it's sitting there wasting away. It was a place for many years before of joy, learning and laughter. If we keep it closed, it lets Gene Leroy Hart (as he in all likelihood murdered the girls) and what he did win, and stands as a monument to that, and not the girls themselves, who are what should matter in this. The girls I think would want this place reopened as such,… Read more »

Abby
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Abby

I agree completely!!! He wins if nothing is done with this great property,

Hannah
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Also, I agree that these photos don't bear the same creepy vibe as some other photos of abandoned places do. They seem to be sad and saying, come back, please enjoy the area again.

Regina Martin
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Regina Martin

This website has a lot of great work put into it. Thank you.

TDoug
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TDoug

I posted once about how these pics don't have a creepy feel, and Hannah hit it on the nail; the old campgrounds don't seem angry or scary, but sad, as if they regret what happened here as much as anyone and miss the old days. But as Barbie points out, there was a different vibe shortly before the murders. There were definitley warnings. Stolen articles, ominous warning notes, an effigy of a man found hanging by his neck, shadowy figures… But while the place may not seem menacing now, I hope it is NOT reopened. There is obviously still a… Read more »

paul
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paul

I agree I remember I was camping out in the back yard when this happend even though I was 45 miles away it was still scary for a 13 year old .
I do feel that to re open the camp would cause a media circus that would cause more harm than good besides would you want to send your kids to a camp that a horrific murder took place I know I wouldnt

TDoug
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TDoug

More importantly, it would be dangerous. Camp Scott was designed in the 20s, and what was safe then is not safe now. As Barbie also points out, the layout was bad. I noticed this looking at the map on this site. Each section was pretty isolated, and the individual tents were not that close to each other or the counselor. With "copycat" criminals so common these day, I don't think it's a good idea. At the risk of sounding trite or insensitive, the old camp seems oddly peaceful and I truly do believe these 3 girls are in a much… Read more »

Guest
Guest
Guest

First of all, I find white on black with this website, very hard to read. Also, I can barely see when these comments were written. That being said, I just heard about this. I probably read about it, or heard about it, when it happened, but just re-read it this year 2011. I am commenting because I have noticed when reading lately and from inside information into the Jon Benet murder, plus reading for the first time the Keddie murders, and then this one, that I realized all of them have different stories. The scenes at each of these cases… Read more »

Guest
Guest
Guest

Really? Prince of Darkness? There may be some kind of cover-up going on here, but don't polarize "non" christians as murders and devil worshipers, and the good people as christians. This kind of thinking is ridiculous.

Guest
Guest
Guest

Mr. Ramsey's older daughter died in a car accident, while in another state nowhere near him. You say he was "told" to shut her up about his own alleged molestation? That doesn't even make sense.

Guest
Guest
Guest

You're kind of a schmuck, aren't you?

Lelouch
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Lelouch

Hart did kill those girls. It's obvious he did. One of the reasons he got off was because the prosecutor(sp?) couldn't find anyone better to testify against him than an indian medicine man.

Frost
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Frost

Actually in ritulistic killings things are very controlled, and not easily figured out, unless you know what you're looking for. To the girl scout murders, it wasn't ritulistic at all. These three girls were killed by a sick sadistic person. People who practice Shamanisem (sp?) usually do it for good. There first rule like with Wicca is harm none. Native American medican used to harm people always comes back to desstroy the person who weilded it for wrong. And if you want to talk about vicious crimes, take a look at some other murderers. Not all of them were invovled… Read more »

annalise
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annalise

Agree completely. You will not find a more benign way of faith than Wicca. Harm none…how that supports the claims made above are beyond me. Maybe this person should actually do some real research in Shamanism and Wicca before they smear them.

notalwaysobvious
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notalwaysobvious

The killer of these poor souls is "Killer Karl Myers". I know this because i have a newspaper clipping from 1998 telling me about his serial killing self getting put on the stand and found out by a friend of mine who was in jail with him at the time. Karl Myers died last December of 2012 of a heart attack while on death row. he was tried and convicted of killing two woman unrelated to this case. A website serialmurderers.com tells of his story and identifies that he also killed the 3 girls scouts in camp scott. The same… Read more »

Sylvia Scott
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Sylvia Scott

I made a post earlier about this. The property was sold-Camp Scott could never be again since the Council sold the land. They also tried to sell the parcels that HJ Scott deeded to them as long as they wanted to use the land for the samp. Also, it was not an eerie place and I was in the Kiowa unit when I attended in the 60's. By the way-whoever got onto the property to commit the murders knew it quite well and would have known how to enter it. It was not that easy to get to it without… Read more »

A M H
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A M H

Since Boy Scout Camp Garland is well east of OK 82 and the site of Girl Scout Camp Scott is just west of OK 82, it doesn't seem at all that someone would come from Camp Garland to commit these heinous murders which happened on the far west part of Camp Scott. Also, since the three caves and the burglarized farm house were just west and southwest of Camp Scott and closest to the Kiowa area where the three girls' tent was, it is more likely that the perp(s) came through the back gate on the west side of Camp… Read more »

Terri
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Terri

Having spent much of my formative youth at Camp Scott in the mid 1960's, I remember the layout of each encampment to be the same with one tent quite far away from the rest. And none of us campers ever wanted the "isolated" tent.

Suz
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Suz

I love looking at the old photographs. Boy, do I remember the great hall. It was filled with such sounds of happiness and giggles.

I'm going to look for my old photos of my camping experiences at Camp Scott. I should find some of my fellow campers so we can come up with more "scathingly brilliant" ideas to torture camp counselors It was always so much fun. ((((Cheshire grin)))

Nicole
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Nicole

About 10 years ago my husband and I rented the Ranger house. We didn't last there long nor did I know as much about what happened there as I do now after visiting your site or I would never have lived there. So creepy and very sad. I also use to swim in the pool when I was younger.

Tery
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Tery

I remember all of this because I was a girl scout at the time it happened.After this happened we camped out near Moore ,Oklahoma with fathers of the girls acting as armed guards—basically this event ended the "sweet and innocent" childhood part of my life. I would love to see this "cold" case solved once and for all.

Ken
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Ken

It looks as if some utilization of the campsite went on (for storage) and the phone in one of the pictures was not vintage 1977. I don't know if the upcoming film is going to be done by a legitimate person or not; there is so much controversy. The campsite could be used for adults but that would sensationalize these murders. I say leave it as it is. As for the civil suit against the Girl Scout entity I wonder if there wasn't some backwoods justice going on given that the plaintiffs lost.

monika
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monika

How sad, and it hits a nerve with me because I used to go to sleep away camp in New york from the time i was about 6 to 17 but we slept in bunks (cabins) and there were four counselors to 8 campers in the same cabin. and growing up I never once thought something like this could happen. Camp is supposed to be a safe and fun place for children to experience nature and make new friends. Looking at the layout of the camp I am wondering why on earth would parents send their kids here? did the… Read more »

Mark Ruffin
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Mark Ruffin

Good saying because i agree 100%.Why was it layed out like that.

Victoria
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Victoria

This story intrigued me after seeing the headline about the movie being made. I have one question after looking at the pictures. What is with the bones in the picture that is listed under the "red barn" heading? I found that strange and nobody here mentioned it.. Maybe I'mmissing something??

big country
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big country

they are horse bones

Lelouch
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Lelouch

I thougt they were human too at first. But they're too large.

Dawn
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Dawn

Check this out…a friend sent it to me today…
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/07/06/e

Mark Ruffin
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Mark Ruffin

I wonder why was the 3 little girls so seperated away from everybody else. That's why they was easy prey

none
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none

Easy to molest by those they trusted.

Liz Troop 157
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Liz Troop 157

If an adult had been there, one more body would probably have been found. This was just an isolated incident by a crazy person.

Josh
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Josh

I'm looking for the exact location, can someone please email me.

InactiveOkie
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InactiveOkie

In order to believe Hart did NOT commit these murders, you have to be willing to believe all the evidence was fabricated. As to the evidence supposedly left behind when Hart escaped, the Sheriff produced signed property receipts showing Hart took these items with him one of the few times he got out of jail by not escaping. Multiple items tied Hart to the nearby caves, and he had connections in the area. I've never heard anyone say that the perpetrator's hair that was bound up in the tape used to bind the girls was planted. That hair was as… Read more »

OldNews Boy Scout
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OldNews Boy Scout

In response to your post, I personally know that the medicine man was falsely accused of these horrific murders. If anyone disputes his innocence feel free to look up the story of a little known serial killer named "KIller Karl" Myers. Specifically a search for a Claremore, OK newspaper publication called the "Daily Progress" No. 180-March 11, 1998.by editor Lisa Willhoite. The article describes the arrest and conviction of the serial killer Karl Myers and how he committed a few of the crimes but its documented now that he killed atleast 5 people 3 being the girls at Camp Scott.… Read more »

Cari
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Cari

My issue is that from a psychological perspective, his actions make little sense. He had raped pregnant women before. Moving from grown women to children is odd. Sexual predators have their "thing" that gets them going, its very rare for it to be more than one thing. Especially when we're talking adults vs. children. I'd be willing to bet it wasn't him.

Gene
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Gene

I've wondered the same thing. If Hart was an adult female predator, then why was he considered also a child predator. Some child predators kidnap and keep under lock and key, a child to which he does unspeakable things year after year, but when they start getting too old, they search for another victim. Hart simply didn't fit the pattern although he was certainly not a person one would want to be buddy buddy with.

Jamie
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Jamie

It's not really that odd if he was an escaped convict he had access only to certain things and some people's 'fetish' is simply sadism, which doesn't always hold boundaries the way you think it does.

Kim
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Kim

And the question that always haunted me from the time the crime happened is why would you risk committing another crime when you spent the energy to escape prison and risk getting caught doing something and be put back inside. Why risk that after 4 years of freedom, why not commit an act much earlier than that?

Kevin
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Kevin

Measures of central tendency. That's why.

Mike
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Mike

This looks used since 1977. Those trusses in the great hall kitchen look brand new and cigarettes weren't $4.40 in 1977… (also, that Gatorade cooler looks newer than 30+ years).

BecDean
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BecDean

The pool was opened to the public by the landowners about 15 years back.

Old Reporter
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Old Reporter

I have never written about this before but having been a worker at day camp overnights back in the late 60's I always had to sleep between two tents to insure that city kids didn't get scared or out. But in a thunderstorm it seemed odd to me that no counselor was at theior tent or took then into a tent with other campers.

Old Reporter
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Old Reporter

There was never any hesitation in his mind that Gene Leroy Hart was the murderer, and I taked with him everyday for months afterward and his feeling never changed. But I still had those nagging questions; why were they all alone in the tent during a thunderstorm? Why no one checked on them all night? How would hart have sneaked into that tent which I believe had a wood floor, and not alerted any of the girls and no screams would have been heard by anyone.

Joe
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Joe

Seriously…carried out by a swift demon

Sarah Burghart
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Sarah Burghart

Sometimes people who are already frightened can become unresponsive to another horror happening when they are in this state. Imagine that dark cold rainy night, no lights in the tent and some bogeyman shows up! Horrible! I slept in platform tents many times in the summer. One time, my mother, who was a girl scout leader, dressed up in a halloween costume and looked in the tents. There was pandemonium, screaming and running girls everywhere. However, there were some who were literally paralyzed with fright. They neither moved nor made a sound. I knew it was my mother. I had… Read more »

Old Reporter
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Old Reporter

I just wonder who else may have had easy access to those tents, so easy that they would not have scared those youngsters in a thunderstorm like that one that night. I was never able to get Sheriff Weaver to give me an anwer to that question of anyone else.

big country
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big country

those are the pictures of camp scott but i do not understand why it is on aok as there are people liveing there to this date im sure they dont appreceate all the people comeing in and out wanting to walk around i went out there and there are no tresspassing signs everywhere

Lelouch
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Lelouch

I can't believe I have been a girl scout all this time and I've only recently learned about this.
Also, is the ranger station still in use? Because that swing set does not look like it's been there since 1977. My granny had one just like that when I was a child. However, by the time I was a teen it was completly rusted through.

Wolftrack Doğa ve Macera
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obviously like your web-site but you need to check the spelling on quite a few of your posts. Many of them are rife with spelling problems and I in finding it very bothersome to tell the truth then again I will definitely come back again.

Grover
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Grover

You found a grammatical error? Those are such a pain in the ass. Now I have no idea who did this murder. Come to think of it, you're last sentence was somewhat suspect. Do you live in Locust? Are you Native American? Things that make you go hmm.

Henry Kissinger
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Henry Kissinger

Obviously I like your website, but you need to check the spelling on quite a few of your posts. Many of them are rife with spelling problems and I am finding it very bothersome to tell the truth. Then again, I will definitely come back again.

I just corrected all YOUR errors for you!

droid
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droid

Just a FYI… This place is not abandoned and has not been camp Scott since sold in the 80's!! It is privately owned and people live on the property and hunt on the property. The owner really has issues with people just showing up and walking around the land. So please call and talk to the owner first… His name and number is on the sign right before the old camps entrance..

Willow
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Willow

While I am no sleuth, and don't care to get into the debate over who murdered those innocent girls, I would like to put my two cents in about the camp itself. Being a former Girl Scout, both as a Brownie/Junior and a Leader in a troop, I recall the one camping experience I had. Looking back, I am glad I live in Virginia and did not know about the murders until many years after they were committed and after my Scouting days were done. It would have scared me silly, despite the fact I was made to sleep in… Read more »

Friend
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Friend

I have good friends who live on site now…their house is just 20 yards from where the bodies were found. No, the place isn't haunted. It's run wild with hogs and deer and beautiful-ness. One of the most beautiful places I've been to. Many of the outhouses and shower houses still stand, the red barn still stands, though it is in very rough condition. The lodge is currently under renovations, the current owner is going to rent it out. After visiting them and staying the night there last night I had to do some research on the subject, and found… Read more »

Magali
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Magali

HI,
I'm French and i'm working on a documentary project about ghost towns around the world and more particularly about the Scott Camp. This story is as sad as fascinating and I would like to know if you can help me contact the owner on the site.
I would like to go there and shoot and tell the story of the place.
Are some buildings or landscapes that are still as they were in 77 ?
Thank you very much for your help.
Magali

lbg
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lbg

Remember when The Rowland's decided too open the pool & concession area in late 90's early 2'000's?!!!
Juanita &Gary Rowland thought they would give it a run.
It didn't stay open long but still it was very popular even being a born & raised LG person I remember all the chatter so it was interesting.

Scotty
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Scotty

If spirits lingered and "haunted" where they died then no one would ever go into a hospital. They would be so packed full of spirits the hauntings would be constant!

Joe
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Joe

the camp was on sacred grounds 🙁

most likely 'inhabited'

LBG
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LBG

so your saying that a "sacred area" or grounds decided too manifest into pure evil & make someone murder these girls??.. Please
Oh please..
Locust Grove oklahoma citizen
Born 1976

LBG
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LBG

being born & raised & grown up including swimming & spending spring & summer in the original pool & concession areas it's not any more haunted than any other that being said you do get a dark unsettling feeling while being on the property.
LG oklahoma
Local citizen

skelkeylvr
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skelkeylvr

I have read multiple articles and comments regarding this horrific crime. The strange thing is some articles are stating it was tent #8 yet more recent ones are reporting tent# 7. Also, maps of the camp site differ. I wonder why this is.

okieprincess
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okieprincess

It was Tent #8, that's what I've always heard

Lacy
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Lacy

It was tent #7 but in some reports they had counted the counselors tent as tent #1. To the campers and staff the campers tents in Kiowa were 1 thru 7. Counselor tent had no number.

LBG
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LBG

Tent #8. There is also a book available called tent #8. Roughly $30 bucks on Amazon basically an updated version of someone cry for the children.
LBG…born & raised in locust grove
Citizen of Locust Grove Okla.

jolie martin
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jolie martin

I was 11 years old that summer,AND THE SAME WEEKEND, at camp DACKATII, CAMPFIRE CAMP in okc,,,,, my parents showed up out of Nowhere at camp to pick me up,,,,,, They told me what happened,,, and ive been fascinated about this my whole life,,,, i went to the Library last weekend and picked up this new book,"TENT NUMBER EIGHT " WHAT I DONT UNDERSTAND, IS WERE THE GIRLS IN A REAL "TENT" ? MY Dad said HART had several womens eyeglasses that he took,,,, including one of the girls glasses,,,,,,,, jolie

okieprincess
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okieprincess

They would have been in Platform Tents, raised wooden platforms off the ground ( of varying heights) w/ a ridgepoles running front to back, draped in heavy Canvas Frabic attached to framing outside w/ cordage & w/ flaps that could be tied down to bolts in the platform , or tied together, or tied open during the day.(from what I've heard & pics I saw).. those are the kind I slept in during my 8 ys at GS Camp in OKC, our layout was diff tho, each of our units held 8 tents arranged in a senicircle facing the Counslers… Read more »

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